On the subject of the castle grounds vine I'm pretty sure you have to use that way the very first time your getting into the castle, only on subsequent visits can you pay the guard. Pretty sure but not positive which is why I havn't re added it, plus the whole things seems a little strange since it would necessitate noteing all times vines must be climbed in all games Oni Dark Link 18:48, May 27, 2011 (UTC)