Can somebody edit the page and make Dead Hand the winner?
Wow, way to jump the gun[]
Why not just wait for a title?--Richard 01:28, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Call me impatient. And moving it is no trouble. Move, change two links, delete old redirect. 'Sides, from this evening, I won't be on until next week. Oath to Order 01:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations on Picking a Name[]
Congrats. You got a name for yours just two days after the Colosseum I made here. (Which I started after the [using new name] Temple of Courage was started, so I came up with a name first.) I like it.XXXXX 20:54, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Questions[]
I would like to do a Fierce Diety vs. Tabuu, but I'm not sure if Tabuu is allowed, even though he is an opponent Link can fight against. Dark Ridley 12:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, you'll have to see what OtO says, but Link fights Mario in SSBB, and Tabuu too. Since Mario can't be here, then Tabuu probably can't either. But I think that would be a cool fight anyway. XXXXX 16:33, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Zelda characters only. Oath to Order 00:41, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Maybe we should archive some of the older fights.....the ones that have multiple rejects and no one seems to vote for anymore? Dark Ridley 13:14, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Should we delete Reject posts if the person who placed them doesn't say why they did, since it is a rule that they must say why they reject it?
No it doesn't. Oath to Order 14:01, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
It is a rule. Just check them. You have to say why if you justify your post. I think that's a great idea. XXXXX 15:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Two ideas(not counting the old one): Rat Vs. Keese and Fyrus Vs. Gohma(wind waker) PGU27
What about Telma versus Tingle? [Rileymedora] 16 September, 2008
How it works[]
For those wondering, I pick fights by counting both the support and rejects, and then subtracting reject from support. Oath to Order 18:38, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Let me give an example as to how I pick fights: If two suggestions have, say, six support votes, but one has three reject votes and the four, I'll put the one with three reject votes up. Why? Because, technically, it has more votes then the other. 6-4=2. 6-3=3. Get the idea? Oath to Order 18:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Comment Gallery[]
AuronKaizer - "The first thing I want be done is to get that piece of crap out of my ring! Don't just get him out of the ring, get him out of the WWF, because I've proven son, without a shadow of a doubt - you ain't got what it takes anymore. You sit there and you thump your bible and you say your prayers, and it didn't get you anywhere. Talk about your Psalms, talk about John 3:16... Austin 3:16 says: 'I've just whipped your ass'!!" TALK - THE LIST - GAMES - PIT OF RECKONING - SANDBOX - WALRUS GUMBOOT
Must we seriously use "Peanut Gallery" for the name of the comment section? I'm allergic to peanuts, and it's a really really really really really bad joke. It just makes it hard to take this seriously.
Oath to Order– The perceived badassery of any given action will increase tenfold if the action is performed while on fire. TALK– 0_o
Subject over.
Dark Ridley– Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds. TALK– {{{19:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)}}}
How about when a fight is finished, an announcer comment is added in order to describe the fight, like "Zant now has Aghamin in a leg hold.....This fight is over!"
Because it isn't that kind of fught. It's a popularity contest.
Solar flute– The secret of the Bulblins, parachutes. TALK– why don't they put guardrails on that stupid bridge
This place seems to have the most user activity of any article.
Griffen78– I hold the triforce of power dearly,but it only drives me mad TALK– let me show you just what hope you have!
hero of time voted twice check history...is that bad?
Several Points[]
Whoever formats these battles needs to learn to use their eyes, because there is no excuse for the fights looking this bad. Here are a few points of petty complaining:
Both pictures should always be the same size. One should not be bigger than the other, or the voting columns get warped. Each column should be the same size to show visual equality between the two choices. For the worst example of ignoring this rule, see Week 8.
The center picture needs to be much smaller. Generally smaller than the fighters. This way, the Battle Box stays inside the borders of the page. 100px, no more. If you want an example, just see every fight ever made.
Clearly, the fight maker has no sense for color. Both colors should be of equal tone and shade. They should be like Week 10, where you have one blinding bright color competing against a dark smudge. Weeks 11 and 12 is an example of how it should be done. This is an improving trend, and should be kept up.
Finally, no dark colors! You can barely read the text! See Week 7. If you must make the background so dark, make the text white.
Thank you. TacticAngel would cry if he saw these fights. I already did.--BlueHighwind 01:21, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
BH crying. There's your surprise of the day folks! --AuronKaizerKennedy! 13:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Template[]
Should we create a template to show which articles are currently fighting? (I mean putting them on the actual article) or would this be a waste of time??
Updating and stuff[]
Murchadah– If happy cows come from California, then I'd hate to see what kind of animal comes from New York TALK
I haven't been able to get on the computer much, and even then, I don't have much time to do much. Therefore, I can't update the Temple of Courage, and would like to pass the baton to someone (And Uberphoeb hasn't been on much, so......). Anyone want the job?
Hoo hoo. Sorry, just the thought of having to deal with all this statutory you-know-what of the English language makes my eyes burn. It ain't me babe, it ain't me you're lookin' for.
Solar flute– The secret of the Bulblins, parachutes. TALK– why don't they put guardrails on that stupid bridge
I'm able to work the temple of courage, or at least help.Just look what I made in my sandbox.
Power courage wisdom and time– Looks like you're coming around... Link... A terrible thing has happened! The evil shadow spirit has been released! Impa, the leader of Kakariko Village, had sealed the evil shadow spirit in the bottom of the well.... But the force of the evil spirit got so strong, the seal of the well broke, and it escaped into the world!! I believe Impa has gone to the Shadow Temple to seal it up again, but...she will be in danger without any help! Link! Impa is one of the six Sages. Destroy the evil shadow spirit and save Impa! There is an entrance to the Shadow Temple beneath the graveyard behind this village. The only thing I can do for you is teach you the melody that will lead you to the Shadow Temple... This is the melody that will draw you into the infinite darkness that absorbs even time... Listen to this, the Nocturne of Shadow!! Let me take care of the village! I'm counting on you, Link! TALK
Can I help too? I got this weeks battle on my Sandbox.
Murchadah– And the Lord said, "Let there be idiocy." And so George W. Bush was created. But God was suddenly distracted, so he kept it (whether it was best for Earth or not...) TALK
That looks good. If you want the job, you can figure out amongst yourselves who does what. Some things you need to remember are:
Archive the suggestion page every week
archive the fights every 4 weeks
Update near the beginning of the week
Don't use the same image twice.
I can't think of much else for now. Have fun
Diababa vs. Kalle Demos[]
Why exactly is Diababa vs. Kalle Demos the fight? It didn't get the most votes.....It got -1, in fact.......And on a side note, why is the comment section (Also known as the Peanut Gallery) now on the right side instead of in the middle under the voting sections (What I mean is, it's under the Kalle Demos section and the Stalkin section from the last fight) Xykeb Zraliv 20:43, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
That's great, but it still doesn't answer my original question.....Xykeb Zraliv 04:03, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Dark link vs Link[]
The hero of time vs the evil link will battle till one is defeated. Will it be the hero of hyrule several times or will it be the evil copy of link sent to destroy him? Who knows!
Xykeb Zraliv– 3. And when he saw what had become of the Spying Thief, the Covetous Thief was consumed with Fear, and with the Fear came rage. “I will not follow the Spying Thief in Death; I will not follow. I curse this house and all of us, for in our sin we have cursed ourselves.” TALK– it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
Um, what? If you're trying to make a fight suggestion, you can do so here.
notice[]
Solar flute– The secret of the Bulblins, parachutes. TALK– why don't they put guardrails on that stupid bridge
it seems like people make accounts just so that there votes count as full instead of a half.
Just in general, can we please try to make the colored templates for the ToC less blindingly opposite? Or just not as bright... I know it's kinda pointless but, yeah. :P
Solar flute– The secret of the Bulblins, parachutes. TALK– why don't they put guardrails on that stupid bridge
also, never make the color be blue, red, or black
Introduction Paragraph text[]
I don't like the new changes just made, specifically this part: "...and not "battles" as such. For instance, in a boss vs. boss fight, vote for the one you like the most; don't base your votes on whether or not one enemy would beat another in a legit fight." Specifically because that is the criteria a lot of people use as their reasoning, and that was one of the original suggestions for how to vote (like Hero of Time 87 has done in virtually every battle). Not sure how that just changed out of no where, considering its still in the "Rules" section as well.
AuronKaizer - "Now the whole world stands on the brink, staring into bloody Hell; all those liberals and intellectuals and smooth-talkers... and all of a sudden nobody can think of anything to say." TALK - THE LIST - GAMES - PIT OF RECKONING - SANDBOX - WALRUS GUMBOOT
I thought we agreed to said rule ages ago...my memory is a little sketchy though. It undermines the original concept, but if people want it that way, that's the way it's gotta be I guess.
Oh it was? Where? Sorry, I didn't mean to just jump in if it was already agreed upon. Pianist Link 01:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, well, I just checked where we discussed it, and I guess I was wrong (again, the memory...) However, if one does use the "real battle" process, it's a bit unfair if one of the parts can actually "fight" while the other cannot. It would make more sense to just keep them popularity contests.
Well with the new edit, I think it's fine now. Cheers. Pianist Link 01:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Champion's Round[]
Dark Ridley– Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds. TALK– {{{19:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)}}}
How about special matches that only features characters who have won at least once in the Temple of Courage?
Moblin slayer– Marching forward hypocritic and hypnotic computers, you depend on our protection, yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth! TALK– Yeah...
I don't know...that wouldn't make much sense, as the characters have to be connected, and unless we were going to redo a fight, there wouldn't be a connection (or not much of one, anyway...)
Xykeb Zraliv– 10. And the family of thieves sat together to dine in the house of the Bridgekeeper that was the Mind of the Bridgekeeper, and the wrath of the house fell upon them. TALK– it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
This has already been discussed multiple times. While the idea seems cool at first, we'd have a whole bunch of fights that don't make sense, like Link vs. Hyrule, Zora vs. Diababa, and Stalkin vs. Ganondorf.
I agree with these guys. We could probably do some kind of championship tournament in the future, though. It'd have to be outside the ToC though.
Actually Xykeb it is possible for one being to go up against an entire race. You've ever seen Scarface, Commando or Rambo? (Note: this is a joke! For the love of God no one take this seriously.) --Big Poe=Nice Guy 01:53, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Hang on...[]
Who's the dude who's writing the stuff for the "matches"? You know, those (often-hilarious) comments that normally align with a normal wrestling match. --Big Poe=Nice Guy 02:21, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Xykeb Zraliv– 1. On the Day of the Bridge, the Prince returned to the court of the King, and bowed low before the presence. TALK– it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
I don't know who did it this particular week, but it's usually either AuronKaizer or Watcher. AuronKaizer started it all and Watcher kind of followed his example. So chances are it was one of them.
Yeah I thought it was AK. Seemed like his kind of humor. --Big Poe=Nice Guy 13:52, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh, it's not that big a deal. I know him in real life, and he has permision to do it if I can't/ don't get to it in time.
Zeldapedia home page[]
It still says that this week's fight is the Composer Bros. vs. Guru-Guru; shouldn't it be changed to this week's fight? I'd do it myself, only... I have no idea how. Diachronos (talk) 00:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Could we have some designated something to tell us who does the temple of courage, other than the over-clogged up history page. I think Mr.Fairy does it but he's an IP! Anyway. I also would like to take command.
Maybe a userbox?
Xykeb Zraliv– 7. And the King took the vestments of the Prince and gave them to the Man of Purity, and the Man of Purity became the New Prince. TALK– it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
Actually, I'm pretty sure Watcher is the one doing it most of the time. Mr.Fairy only does it sometimes.
Along with the new words (Especially the excessive amounts of vowels), maybe the ToC needs a new look. Make it look more like a Temple? Along with that, the Wrestle-mania thing might catch on.
Anyway, I was thinking... "As you enter the giant Temple, you see only darkness. The light of the Triforce of Courage shines before you as you look beyond. After bypassing two traps (show images of traps on either side), you see a giant rock surround by flame (show the ToC Logo with two fire things on either side), the rock depicting the Royal Family's logo, and under it, (Big space) (big letters, cool font called triforce) THE TEMPLE OF COURAGE. As you walk past the rock and through some vines, you see a giant ring. 'Welcome to the Temple of Courage. Every week there's a fight (etc, with the details).' (Then it shows the voting and whatnot).
I know, people wont like this much, but who gives?! I do
Anyway, i hope everyone likes this idea They wont
Xykeb Zraliv– 3. And when he saw what had become of the Spying Thief, the Covetous Thief was consumed with Fear, and with the Fear came rage. “I will not follow the Spying Thief in Death; I will not follow. I curse this house and all of us, for in our sin we have cursed ourselves.” TALK– it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
That could work, if we did it right. Let's just not use that paragraph specifically :P
Hey, I'm the guy who does the Temple of Courage, and if I can't it's Mister Fariy. If he can't, then it's first come, first served. I like the Temple just the way it is, and I would prefer if some maniac didn't come along proposing some change without consulting me first. I may have limited access right now, but you, back off!
Moblin slayer– Marching forward hypocritic and hypnotic computers, you depend on our protection, yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth! TALK– Yeah...
That "maniac" is the person who ran ToC before you, and, correct if I'm wrong, an admin. Show some respect please.
Watcher, you back off. Murch and I were the first ToC guys, not you. When Murch and I disappeared, AK took over, and i guess passed the roll to you. TBH, I don't even trust that fairy person, He's an IP. Don't abuse your power, because your not the only one here who can Copy and Paste stuff. IT'S REALLY EASY.
Xykeb Zraliv– 1. After ten score years, all was in readiness for the construction of the Bridge, and the Prince watched as the Bridgekeeper stood on both sides of the dark ocean, awaiting TALK– it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
While I do agree that Watcher is being a little too aggresive, and I know that you used to run the Temple of Courage, it is true that he makes the Temple of Courage fights now and you seem to be acting as if, because you were doing this first, you should be able to just pick up where you left off with no hassle. I agree that you have the right to propose this change (he can just vote no if we wants), but you're really not respecting the fact that Watcher does this. All this stuff about how you're going to start doing the Temple of Courage again I mean.
Issue[]
Hey guys, I thought of something. It turned out that Flashpenny and Big Poe were the same perosn, right? What are we going to do about the fights where both of them voted? Will we change the results?03:01, 1 July 2009 (UTC)MaloMart (talk)
Xykeb Zraliv– 1. The fourth Man who desired judgment was the Slave, who had not been brought Frehorn’s message, and who cruelly tormented the wood that was the Prince’s Soul with a sharpened blade. The Prince came to him and he struck the Slave down, and the Slave knew the name of the King. TALK– it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
Personally I say no. The fights are done and over with, nobody really cares about the anymore and even if the results are slightly off, it would be rather pointless to change them just for the sake of making them "correct".
Are you supposed to vote for the one you hate the most, or like the most?
Xykeb Zraliv– 5. Then for ten score years this was so, the King allowed the races of Man and Demon to exist as they saw fit, and on the eight-and-twentieth day of every seventh month the King’s heart was hardened by what he saw in the land of Technology, and the subjects of the land of Magick would be quick to gladden him with offerings. TALK– it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
Either one. Personally, I generally vote for the one I think is cooler, regardless of whether or not I like it.
Editing your own vote[]
For my vote in the Ingo vs. Zant fight, I forgot to a) put my username there and b) didn't know how to use a timestamp. Sorry about that.
Hmm...I find something...rather disturbing about the IP users that vote...intrestingly enough, it seems when some IP votes for let's say "Zant" and says something short like "Zant is better than Vaati" (WRONG!!), it's only a few minutes later that another IP user comes on and says something very close to that, that's short as well, "Zant is awsome"...though they have diffrent IP addresses...they could of used their friends or neighbors internet.......the thing that makes it suspiousus, is that it's only like, two minutes apart. I think, perhapes, there shouldn't be anymore anoynomus votes. It should be for users only, cause I find that cheating could be pretty easy for IP users...also, every single new battle...it seems like there is MORE and MORE IP votes...and weirdly enough on some of their contributions page, it says it's the first edit they've ever done here on this wiki, it happens every time!! Cheating is obviously going on, in my point of view. What do you guys say??
The Midna– 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164 TALK– 04:15, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
I'm strongly against removing the IP voting. If it weren't for the Temple of Courage, I may not be here today (on Zeldapedia). The Temple of Courage can lead in IPs to maybe become members in order to get a stronger vote in the matter.
There's no way to be sure of that, and embarking on a McCarthyesque witch hunt is both unfair for those users who deserve trust, and just plain sucks. There is little to nothing we can do it such is the case, though. Besides, I thought you were busy trying to shut this place down?
Hahaha! I only said that because I was flustared, I never went further than that! I'm just saying, it's easy to vote more than once for IP's. And I wasn't on a witch hunt, I was just curious about why so many votes sounded similar, and were put up close to the same time! That's it!
AuronKaizer - "I'm not really foreign, you know. I just do it to appear more sophisticated. I mean, nobody'd buy Evian water if it was called Blackburn water, would they? Nobody'd wear Kicker boots if they were made in Scunthorpe! ABBA? ABBA, Swedish? I knew then when they were a Lancashire clog dancing trio! Arthur, Betty, Boris and Angela! Solzhenitsyn, Solzhenitsyn? A former pipe-fitter welder from Harrogate! " TALK - THE LIST - GAMES - PIT OF RECKONING - SANDBOX - WALRUS GUMBOOT 04:42, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
Well, IPs occasionally change, so some people who've edited before may appear to be "new" users, but we can't know for sure, right? Anyway, most of these people are probably just passing through to vote for whomever they like and then leave without getting more immersed into the wiki. And they're free to do that, of course. And hey, not all votes have to be insightful and lengthy, right? Sometimes you've got to call a Sam Spade a Philip Marlow. In closing, there isn't really much to do. I think they should have the right to vote, and even if they misuse our trust in them, who cares? It's only a popularity contest on a wiki. It's not really that big of a deal, well, actually, there might not even be a "deal" at all.
Ummmm...I don't think anyone will agree, but I think there is occasionally some votes that...are probably not "written nicely". They seem to contain some wording that may not be to "appropriate". I don't know. Feel free to disagree with me.--Link in Termina (talk) 20:22, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
AuronKaizer - "All right, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these?! Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" TALK - THE LIST - GAMES - PIT OF RECKONING - SANDBOX - WALRUS GUMBOOT 23:57, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
There doesn't appear to be any message on the page right now that are in violation with rules regarding language. It might be easier if you specify which comments you refer to, especially since what's "appropriate" depends on one's relative point of view in most cases.
That's true. But I'm not exactly sure which comments I saw. I probably didn't understand them, anyways.--Link in Termina 13:53, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
That's why people regularly check the edits made at the ToC. There isn't anything we can do to stop them, but we can move their edits to the anonymous votes section or remove the vote if necessary.
I'm guessing that they are often the actual user who forgot to log in. We should remove the vote and leave the message in the edit summary "Log in and re-enter your vote." If the IP does it again, then block the IP for two weeks.
I think I know what you're talking about, when you mean they're not real usernames. I've seen some sigs that don't even link to a userpage. I think I have seen some fake signatures, in the Vaati vs. Zant fight. I think Zant would've won, but then I'm guessing some unregistered contributors voted for Vaati, and cheated.
Yes, it has. This is why we call it a "semi-weekly basis". Sometimes nobody really gets around to it. Unless you can change the fight yourself (which I personally have quite honestly never bothered to learn), there's nothing you can really do except point it out and wait for somebody to go ahead and change the fight. XykebYvolixZraliv 02:13, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
Now that you mention it, I always wondered why we said "semi-weekly basis" since semi means half...we should probably use something like quasi or pseudo instead. Jedimasterlink (talk) 07:12, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
Technically, yeah. But in everyday language, it just means partial. It's like how we use theory instead of hypothesis. It just looks more colloquial and therefore aesthetically pleasing. Go ahead and change it if you want though, I guess. XykebYvolixZraliv 18:21, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
Intro[]
Do we have to ask permission or whatever to edit the intro paragraph that describes both? I see a lot of stuff in the peanut gallery about how we should change it but do I need permission? --Hydropanda (talk) 20:04, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
Nah, you don't have to ask if nobody did it. Go for it. --EveryDayJoe45 (talk) 23:49, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
Results page[]
Would anyone objected to the creation of a Zeldapedia page that simply states what characters fought each other and who won? OniDark Link 21:43, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
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